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		<title>By: Sunita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ram Jethmalani- is undoubtedly a conniving, manipulative liar

Read this:
http://lalljessica.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ram Jethmalani- is undoubtedly a conniving, manipulative liar</p>
<p>Read this:<br />
<a href="http://lalljessica.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://lalljessica.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Karthik Rao Cavale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karthik Rao Cavale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiren,

I fail to get the import of your post. Are you suggesting that the circumstances that prevailes between the 1920&#039;s and 40&#039;s no longer prevail and hence we must not attempt Gandhigiri any more?

&lt;blockquote&gt;“Who polices the police, who educates the educationists, who watches the watchdog, who makes law for the lawmakers etc or to sum up “Who keeps the keeper?&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I understand your distress, buy I wish to point out that things as bad when Gandhi attempted Satyagraha. A govt. that was committed to governing the people of India was oppressing, nay looting the people of India.

I do not claim his philosophy to be perfectly correct. Or effective. It was never very effective.

I suppose I understand you wrongly, but you seem to suggest that Gandhigiri be applied selectively. I respect your point, but it would look like duplicity to me.

Criticise Gandhi, by all means, but please offer one whole substitute that we can apply uniformly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiren,</p>
<p>I fail to get the import of your post. Are you suggesting that the circumstances that prevailes between the 1920&#8217;s and 40&#8217;s no longer prevail and hence we must not attempt Gandhigiri any more?</p>
<blockquote><p>“Who polices the police, who educates the educationists, who watches the watchdog, who makes law for the lawmakers etc or to sum up “Who keeps the keeper?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I understand your distress, buy I wish to point out that things as bad when Gandhi attempted Satyagraha. A govt. that was committed to governing the people of India was oppressing, nay looting the people of India.</p>
<p>I do not claim his philosophy to be perfectly correct. Or effective. It was never very effective.</p>
<p>I suppose I understand you wrongly, but you seem to suggest that Gandhigiri be applied selectively. I respect your point, but it would look like duplicity to me.</p>
<p>Criticise Gandhi, by all means, but please offer one whole substitute that we can apply uniformly.</p>
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		<title>By: Allie Griffith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allie Griffith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 08:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello from America!  I am an American who has just started to be interested in India&#039;s culture and movies, and the man at the Indian grocery recommended Lage Raho Munnabhai to me. A beautiful movie!

Many have commented &quot;what can one person following Ghandi do?&quot; 

I have two replies to this:  first of all, if you do right, you will have done what is right, no matter what the other person does. The other person has power to hurt you, but not to take away your character.

Second:  Ghandi was an educated man, he wasn&#039;t just a man who followed non-violence, but also a genius who knew the system and the problems with the system. To have success following Ghandi, you can&#039;t just follow non-violence;  you must make yourself better in all ways, smarter, more able to challenge the system successfully, as he did. 

We do have corruption in America - for example, a small town near me tried to charge people &quot;off the record&quot; money for speeding tickets in return for not putting the ticket on their driving history. However, in that case, outraged citizens reported to the state government, the town was ordered to stop doing that, the individual policemen were punished, and the money was restored. It does make a big difference when every person is outraged by unfair treatment and speaks up. Sometimes it seems like too much trouble to speak up over a small thing, but allowing small things to pass (like the driver asking for extra money) leads to a culture where larger matters are also allowed to pass. So speak up when you are treated unfairly!

I hope my comments don&#039;t seem too ignorant, since I know so little about India.  :)  Thank you for the links, so that I can learn more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello from America!  I am an American who has just started to be interested in India&#8217;s culture and movies, and the man at the Indian grocery recommended Lage Raho Munnabhai to me. A beautiful movie!</p>
<p>Many have commented &#8220;what can one person following Ghandi do?&#8221; </p>
<p>I have two replies to this:  first of all, if you do right, you will have done what is right, no matter what the other person does. The other person has power to hurt you, but not to take away your character.</p>
<p>Second:  Ghandi was an educated man, he wasn&#8217;t just a man who followed non-violence, but also a genius who knew the system and the problems with the system. To have success following Ghandi, you can&#8217;t just follow non-violence;  you must make yourself better in all ways, smarter, more able to challenge the system successfully, as he did. </p>
<p>We do have corruption in America &#8211; for example, a small town near me tried to charge people &#8220;off the record&#8221; money for speeding tickets in return for not putting the ticket on their driving history. However, in that case, outraged citizens reported to the state government, the town was ordered to stop doing that, the individual policemen were punished, and the money was restored. It does make a big difference when every person is outraged by unfair treatment and speaks up. Sometimes it seems like too much trouble to speak up over a small thing, but allowing small things to pass (like the driver asking for extra money) leads to a culture where larger matters are also allowed to pass. So speak up when you are treated unfairly!</p>
<p>I hope my comments don&#8217;t seem too ignorant, since I know so little about India.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Thank you for the links, so that I can learn more.</p>
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		<title>By: Xistinchaos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xistinchaos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 10:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have fantastic topics going on here. Wonderful! I&#039;m sure to keep coming back for more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have fantastic topics going on here. Wonderful! I&#8217;m sure to keep coming back for more.</p>
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		<title>By: surfing Life</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 08:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TRUE. Hiren wrote an wonderful article on this and i thought that was one of the best post i had read for a long time in this webLife. i recommend you read this post on Times magazine about Gandhiji who was ranked 2nd on their list of greatest leaders and revolutioners. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] TRUE. Hiren wrote an wonderful article on this and i thought that was one of the best post i had read for a long time in this webLife. i recommend you read this post on Times magazine about Gandhiji who was ranked 2nd on their list of greatest leaders and revolutioners. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ashish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 18:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. However, not everything is so despondent. There are signs of improvement.
1. RTI act - People have started using it to get the truth. This seems as the highest level of Gandhi&#039;s ideals. People actually forced the Govt to back down when it wanted to choke the act, which is a very good sign.
2. A large percentage of the cases currently in court involved the Govt in some manner. There are signs that the Govt is trying to reduce the number of cases in which it is a ligitant.
3. The Courts retain their independence and do not accept any attempt by the Govt to curtail this.
4. It is nothing but media and people&#039;s disapproval that have force the re-opening of the Jessica Lal and Priyadarshini Mattoo case.
5. The proliferation of the media networks (including news channels) and their attempts to make a mark for themselves by exposing corruption will have the effect of making people a bit more nervous about practising corruption
6. As the number of laws that control what people can do go down, scope for corruption reduces.

Thanks for visiting my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. However, not everything is so despondent. There are signs of improvement.<br />
1. RTI act &#8211; People have started using it to get the truth. This seems as the highest level of Gandhi&#8217;s ideals. People actually forced the Govt to back down when it wanted to choke the act, which is a very good sign.<br />
2. A large percentage of the cases currently in court involved the Govt in some manner. There are signs that the Govt is trying to reduce the number of cases in which it is a ligitant.<br />
3. The Courts retain their independence and do not accept any attempt by the Govt to curtail this.<br />
4. It is nothing but media and people&#8217;s disapproval that have force the re-opening of the Jessica Lal and Priyadarshini Mattoo case.<br />
5. The proliferation of the media networks (including news channels) and their attempts to make a mark for themselves by exposing corruption will have the effect of making people a bit more nervous about practising corruption<br />
6. As the number of laws that control what people can do go down, scope for corruption reduces.</p>
<p>Thanks for visiting my blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Vivek Sanghi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vivek Sanghi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Hiren,

A very nice article and couldn&#039;t have agreed with you more. Somewhere in your blog I also read the statistics about how many believe in Gandhigiri. In my review of the book Freakonomics, I spoke about Malthus&#039;s essays on population which seems to be related to this (if you want to bring economics into it). If you look at the broad picture, it&#039;s all a big and seemingly unbreakable (under usual circumstances) viscious cycle. Thanks for viewing my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Hiren,</p>
<p>A very nice article and couldn&#8217;t have agreed with you more. Somewhere in your blog I also read the statistics about how many believe in Gandhigiri. In my review of the book Freakonomics, I spoke about Malthus&#8217;s essays on population which seems to be related to this (if you want to bring economics into it). If you look at the broad picture, it&#8217;s all a big and seemingly unbreakable (under usual circumstances) viscious cycle. Thanks for viewing my blog.</p>
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		<title>By: ekawaaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>ekawaaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 21:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Buddy, 

I had added you in my blogroll so it will be easier for me to jump on your blog. Yeah thanks alot for dropping your thoughts on my blog really appreciate it. Buddy now update your blog:))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Buddy, </p>
<p>I had added you in my blogroll so it will be easier for me to jump on your blog. Yeah thanks alot for dropping your thoughts on my blog really appreciate it. Buddy now update your blog:))</p>
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		<title>By: Hiren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hiren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sanjay goel- All I am pointing out is that one should not get carried away
@ Thank you Pawan
@ Suspect You have got to the root of the problem
@ Golluguru - I totally agree with you
@Suspect- Too much income disparity is not good
@ Ek Awaaz- I like your write ups too
@ Pradeep Nair- Thanks Mr Nair, Praise from you is praise indeed.
@ Archana- Sweet are the fruits of adversity
@ Kishley- I agree
@ soham- Corruption is too deep rooted. Needs long term surgery
@ Kapoora- Thanks.
@ Amodini- The justice system has to change.
@ rtbhrszbzd-fjdfhrkdk
@ Prachi- Right you are
@ Chillabong- You said it as it is like the wysiwyg editor
@ surfryder- Very nice of you to say so. Thanks a lot.
@ Silkboard- I was not making a sweeping statement. I enjoy reading your posts too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sanjay goel- All I am pointing out is that one should not get carried away<br />
@ Thank you Pawan<br />
@ Suspect You have got to the root of the problem<br />
@ Golluguru &#8211; I totally agree with you<br />
@Suspect- Too much income disparity is not good<br />
@ Ek Awaaz- I like your write ups too<br />
@ Pradeep Nair- Thanks Mr Nair, Praise from you is praise indeed.<br />
@ Archana- Sweet are the fruits of adversity<br />
@ Kishley- I agree<br />
@ soham- Corruption is too deep rooted. Needs long term surgery<br />
@ Kapoora- Thanks.<br />
@ Amodini- The justice system has to change.<br />
@ rtbhrszbzd-fjdfhrkdk<br />
@ Prachi- Right you are<br />
@ Chillabong- You said it as it is like the wysiwyg editor<br />
@ surfryder- Very nice of you to say so. Thanks a lot.<br />
@ Silkboard- I was not making a sweeping statement. I enjoy reading your posts too.</p>
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		<title>By: silkboard</title>
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		<dc:creator>silkboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well written Hiren. If I start on a comment, might just go on and on. You&#039;ve inspired me to write a separate post on this subject.

One thing though. That &#039;practically everybody cheats&#039; (or &#039;what will a truly invisible person do&#039; types) statement is a hotly contested one. Did you read Freakonomics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well written Hiren. If I start on a comment, might just go on and on. You&#8217;ve inspired me to write a separate post on this subject.</p>
<p>One thing though. That &#8216;practically everybody cheats&#8217; (or &#8216;what will a truly invisible person do&#8217; types) statement is a hotly contested one. Did you read Freakonomics?</p>
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