<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:geo="http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Sham Jhoothmalani(?) aur Justiceca Hal(?) (Jessica lall)</title>
	<atom:link href="http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/</link>
	<description>Just another WordPress.com weblog</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:10:40 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.com/</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Boy George</title>
		<link>http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/#comment-3343</link>
		<dc:creator>Boy George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/#comment-3343</guid>
		<description>Oh wait. Yes, I have. I&#039;m sorry, but I just don&#039;t have it in me right now to type it all out again. Besides, it was just ramblings anyway. You didn&#039;t want to hear me go on and on about this, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wait. Yes, I have. I&#8217;m sorry, but I just don&#8217;t have it in me right now to type it all out again. Besides, it was just ramblings anyway. You didn&#8217;t want to hear me go on and on about this, right?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Harshad Joshi</title>
		<link>http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/#comment-1536</link>
		<dc:creator>Harshad Joshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/#comment-1536</guid>
		<description>The culprits of Jesica Lal murdar have been found guilty. It took almost 7 years before the case was finally solved. 	

This case is significant, mainly because it has many twists and turns in it.

1. Initially, the court had aquitted manu sharma, as he was a member of an influential family having political contacts.

2. The media once again created ahue and cry over this matter, due to which this case was reopened again. This time, people supported it.

3. Ram Jethmalani, an old man fretted for life tried some foolish heroics claiming that manu sharma was innocent, a sikh person killed her.

4. The other pathetic thing was the politics of Shayan Munshi and Beena Ramani. Both turned hostile in court. 	
Lets wait for wednesday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The culprits of Jesica Lal murdar have been found guilty. It took almost 7 years before the case was finally solved. 	</p>
<p>This case is significant, mainly because it has many twists and turns in it.</p>
<p>1. Initially, the court had aquitted manu sharma, as he was a member of an influential family having political contacts.</p>
<p>2. The media once again created ahue and cry over this matter, due to which this case was reopened again. This time, people supported it.</p>
<p>3. Ram Jethmalani, an old man fretted for life tried some foolish heroics claiming that manu sharma was innocent, a sikh person killed her.</p>
<p>4. The other pathetic thing was the politics of Shayan Munshi and Beena Ramani. Both turned hostile in court.<br />
Lets wait for wednesday.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ruchika</title>
		<link>http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/#comment-1308</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruchika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 09:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/#comment-1308</guid>
		<description>but you have to admit, these trends in bollywood are still actively in use</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but you have to admit, these trends in bollywood are still actively in use</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Nitin</title>
		<link>http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/#comment-1269</link>
		<dc:creator>Nitin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/#comment-1269</guid>
		<description>www.freewebs.com/livestreams123</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.freewebs.com/livestreams123" rel="nofollow">http://www.freewebs.com/livestreams123</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: JV</title>
		<link>http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/#comment-1246</link>
		<dc:creator>JV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 06:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/#comment-1246</guid>
		<description>&quot;Igonrance of law is not good defence.&quot;

 This is statement is based on the paramaount principle of that laws should be so explicit so every ordinray prudent person can understand the provisions of laws.

However, it is not the case in the Indian legal system. Every new enactment , amendment are bent upon to make life harder of ordinary citizen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Igonrance of law is not good defence.&#8221;</p>
<p> This is statement is based on the paramaount principle of that laws should be so explicit so every ordinray prudent person can understand the provisions of laws.</p>
<p>However, it is not the case in the Indian legal system. Every new enactment , amendment are bent upon to make life harder of ordinary citizen.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Paresh</title>
		<link>http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/#comment-1244</link>
		<dc:creator>Paresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 17:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/#comment-1244</guid>
		<description>Nicely written post giving a fairly good idea of the whole issue to someone like me who was completely oblivious of it.
I don&#039;t want to comment (and I don&#039;t know) what/who is right and wrond but Interpreting the articles of Indian Law is a difficult task and this is where the sharp brains can tweak it the way they want, for better or for worse. And if the opposition leaves open even a few holes, it won&#039;t take time before the entire garment is torn out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely written post giving a fairly good idea of the whole issue to someone like me who was completely oblivious of it.<br />
I don&#8217;t want to comment (and I don&#8217;t know) what/who is right and wrond but Interpreting the articles of Indian Law is a difficult task and this is where the sharp brains can tweak it the way they want, for better or for worse. And if the opposition leaves open even a few holes, it won&#8217;t take time before the entire garment is torn out.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: JV</title>
		<link>http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/#comment-1241</link>
		<dc:creator>JV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 08:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/#comment-1241</guid>
		<description>First as the matter of rule, in common law a person is presumed to be innocent until he is held guilty. 

Secondly, it is not the lawyers who are acquitting the person from the offence. But it is the prosecution/police who fails (intentionally or not) in their cases. Because mostly in criminal trials accused remains silent (i.e. he does not have to prove anything), but prosecution has to prove the allegations. And if the allegations are not proved the court has no option but to give benefit of doubt to the accused. Mind here, he is not acquitted as widel mis-conecpt, but given benefit of doubts.

After the mis-carriage of law in the best bakery case, wherein realtime melodrama was performed at every level. In this case even the star witness Zahira turned hositle and refused to identify any accused and so did other 40+ witnesses and therefore the court had no option but to let the accused run loose. Therfore, our courts are not courts-of-justice ,as we believe , but courts-of-evidence. If no evidence no conviction, simple as that.

And it is only few cases like jesica, best bakery etc. come into the light of media and known to the public. But at ground level there are thousands of cases which are tried in same manners, and jesica case is just magnified version of these mis-carriage of justice happening at micro level.

I feel helpless and believe mere talking and shouting of media and other people will not change the system. 

I am optimistic by nature, but when I see and hear anything relating to Indian politiicans, government etc. I do not see any changes at least in my lifespan.(baat niklegi to har bat pe rona ayega...)

CL is just taking advantage of loopholes left open by govenment/prosecution as every lawyers takes, just he is loud mouth :). I am blaming government because being aware of present rotted (criminal judicial system and repeatedly pointed out by SC for many years but nobody is interested to change the crime sceneraios of India.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First as the matter of rule, in common law a person is presumed to be innocent until he is held guilty. </p>
<p>Secondly, it is not the lawyers who are acquitting the person from the offence. But it is the prosecution/police who fails (intentionally or not) in their cases. Because mostly in criminal trials accused remains silent (i.e. he does not have to prove anything), but prosecution has to prove the allegations. And if the allegations are not proved the court has no option but to give benefit of doubt to the accused. Mind here, he is not acquitted as widel mis-conecpt, but given benefit of doubts.</p>
<p>After the mis-carriage of law in the best bakery case, wherein realtime melodrama was performed at every level. In this case even the star witness Zahira turned hositle and refused to identify any accused and so did other 40+ witnesses and therefore the court had no option but to let the accused run loose. Therfore, our courts are not courts-of-justice ,as we believe , but courts-of-evidence. If no evidence no conviction, simple as that.</p>
<p>And it is only few cases like jesica, best bakery etc. come into the light of media and known to the public. But at ground level there are thousands of cases which are tried in same manners, and jesica case is just magnified version of these mis-carriage of justice happening at micro level.</p>
<p>I feel helpless and believe mere talking and shouting of media and other people will not change the system. </p>
<p>I am optimistic by nature, but when I see and hear anything relating to Indian politiicans, government etc. I do not see any changes at least in my lifespan.(baat niklegi to har bat pe rona ayega&#8230;)</p>
<p>CL is just taking advantage of loopholes left open by govenment/prosecution as every lawyers takes, just he is loud mouth <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . I am blaming government because being aware of present rotted (criminal judicial system and repeatedly pointed out by SC for many years but nobody is interested to change the crime sceneraios of India.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Deepa</title>
		<link>http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/#comment-1232</link>
		<dc:creator>Deepa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 20:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/#comment-1232</guid>
		<description>I am not a big fan of this lawyer. His character was revealed during the Lok Sabha elections. I hope he loses the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a big fan of this lawyer. His character was revealed during the Lok Sabha elections. I hope he loses the case.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ekawaaz</title>
		<link>http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/#comment-1209</link>
		<dc:creator>ekawaaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 22:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/#comment-1209</guid>
		<description>@Hiren 

I had read it article, noise they raising is leading to media trial, which is not correct in any sense. Yeah its is true big people always try to influence the justice system, but its doesnt mean that Media people will take the judgement in their own hands. Like you said 

&quot;Don’t forget that the concerned lawyer is described as a smuggler’s lawyer by Mr Sanghvi&quot; Do you think this is correct way to describe JM? He is very respectfull lawyer. All my point is media can expose the case but if they try to influence the case then it is wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hiren </p>
<p>I had read it article, noise they raising is leading to media trial, which is not correct in any sense. Yeah its is true big people always try to influence the justice system, but its doesnt mean that Media people will take the judgement in their own hands. Like you said </p>
<p>&#8220;Don’t forget that the concerned lawyer is described as a smuggler’s lawyer by Mr Sanghvi&#8221; Do you think this is correct way to describe JM? He is very respectfull lawyer. All my point is media can expose the case but if they try to influence the case then it is wrong.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Pradeep</title>
		<link>http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/#comment-1201</link>
		<dc:creator>Pradeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 20:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://hirenshah.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/sham-jhoothmalani-and-justiceca-haljessica-lall/#comment-1201</guid>
		<description>Lawyers job is to interpret the law to the client&#039;s advantage. And, in case like this truth is not a fact, but an opinion that carries conviction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lawyers job is to interpret the law to the client&#8217;s advantage. And, in case like this truth is not a fact, but an opinion that carries conviction.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
